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general assembly and the clinton global initiative. we begin with president clinton. >> we continue with former prime minister tony blair. >> and we conclude with the president of iran, mahmoud ahmadinejad. three perspectives on the middle east, the arab spring and iran when we continue. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following: captioning sponsored by captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: new york city this week was the site of two major global conferences, one the united nations general assembly in which representatives of the nations who are members of the general assembly come here, including heads of state and foreign ministers and others at the clinton global initiative, business and government and ngo s were in attendance to talk about big ideas, big problems. one of the problems they talked about at both places was syria. another was middle east protest about a film that attacked mohammed and the third was iran and nuclear weapons. we begin wi
general assembly and the clinton global initiative. we begin with president clinton. >> we continue with former prime minister tony blair. >> and we conclude with the president of iran, mahmoud ahmadinejad. three perspectives on the middle east, the arab spring and iran when we continue. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following: captioning sponsored by captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose:...
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of the general assembly come here, including heads of state and foreign ministers and others at the clinton global initiative, business and government and ngo s were in attendance to talk about big ideas, big problems. one of the problems they talked about at both places was syria. another was middle east protest about a film that attacked mohammed and the third wasiran an nuclear weapons. we begin with the former president of the united states bill clinton in conversation with me and my colleague at cbs nora o'donnell. >> rose: do you think this election the president has said that change has to come from outside rather than in washington, that this election has the possibility of producing a change that will be able to overcome gridlock. >> i don't think it to the only has the possibility, i think it almost certainly will. and let me explain why. i think the president's going to w but let's assume governor romney won. if he wins, that almost certainly means the republicans will hold on to the house and it will be about 50/50 in the senate, more or less the way it is now. you can't filibus
of the general assembly come here, including heads of state and foreign ministers and others at the clinton global initiative, business and government and ngo s were in attendance to talk about big ideas, big problems. one of the problems they talked about at both places was syria. another was middle east protest about a film that attacked mohammed and the third wasiran an nuclear weapons. we begin with the former president of the united states bill clinton in conversation with me and my...
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clinton intern is here some time back. is the free syrian army the people who carried out that attack on their army and who is the free syrian army anyway i know people that oppose us had all their lives they are against the free syrian army and it is interesting to see what the tactics of this nebulous group obviously now like to al-qaeda what their tactics are going to be they obviously have no compunction of killing civilians and it is a war i think everyone watching the syrian conflict ration has to decide which side they're on you can be balanced or impartial about a war right it is a war which side are you on if the violence and terror attacks do you finally force assad to step down will the rebels be able to restore peace in the country. the rebels have no chance i think of taking over the country but again i mean with this press t.v. journalist. it is that idea that i think every one of your viewers should think about martha gellhorn that. journalist said objectivity is no place for the war and it's a very sad time
clinton intern is here some time back. is the free syrian army the people who carried out that attack on their army and who is the free syrian army anyway i know people that oppose us had all their lives they are against the free syrian army and it is interesting to see what the tactics of this nebulous group obviously now like to al-qaeda what their tactics are going to be they obviously have no compunction of killing civilians and it is a war i think everyone watching the syrian conflict...
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consistently are told by president obama by just in the last two weeks president bush senator mccain hillary clinton that it has nothing to do with our. foreign policy it has everything to do with muslims hate freedom. they hate liberty which is nonsense but that breeds fear in the american people. what what it how has this i mean the sikh community is not a muslim community how has this impacted the sikh community well there's no question that in the post nine eleven environment six have been targeted for hate crimes and other forms of discrimination because. the prevailing stereotype is that if somebody works a turban they're associated with al qaeda or other forms of extremism but i agree with corey this is islamophobia anti muslim bigotry is the latest manifestation of a problem that's been with us for centuries which is fear of the other xenophobia six have been in this country for more than a century and as early as nine hundred seven were targeted for violence and other forms of discrimination because of who they work are there and look if any of you want to take a shot at this sir or maybe t
consistently are told by president obama by just in the last two weeks president bush senator mccain hillary clinton that it has nothing to do with our. foreign policy it has everything to do with muslims hate freedom. they hate liberty which is nonsense but that breeds fear in the american people. what what it how has this i mean the sikh community is not a muslim community how has this impacted the sikh community well there's no question that in the post nine eleven environment six have been...
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bill clinton had two. but there could be a bunch in a hurry. justice ginsburg is the most likely to leave. and if president obama wins, that wouldn't change the balance of five republicans and four democrats. but if the five-to-four balance shifts, you could see dramatic dramatic changes in the court. it all depends on who leaves. >> do you simply assume president obama would name someone like sonja sot ma yor or clarence thomas for that matter? can you just assume those would be the possibilities, the probabilities if you will? >> that is precisely what i would assume. you know, there's a mythology about the court that presidents often are surprised by how their justices turn out. but you know, that is very much the exception rather than the rule. if you look at the justices currently on the court right now, every single one of them has turned out more or less as predicted. sure there are individual cases, there are surprises. i certainly was surprised by chief justice roberts' vote in the affordable care act case. but by and large presidents
bill clinton had two. but there could be a bunch in a hurry. justice ginsburg is the most likely to leave. and if president obama wins, that wouldn't change the balance of five republicans and four democrats. but if the five-to-four balance shifts, you could see dramatic dramatic changes in the court. it all depends on who leaves. >> do you simply assume president obama would name someone like sonja sot ma yor or clarence thomas for that matter? can you just assume those would be the...
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hillary clinton actually gets up every day thinking about public policy. barack obama gets up every day thinking about barack obama. i mean, they're very different approaches to life. i think those of us who are his critics need to get over and understand, this who is president. this is a man who in the age of false celebritihood is sort of the perfect pre he's a false president. he's a guy who doesn't do the president's job. he's had 39% of the briefings on intelligence, the daily briefings. he goes to las vegas while there's an attack on banghazi. >> bill: i give him a pass on that, because you don't want terrorists to think they've disrupted. i'm critical of the fact that he's not meeting with presidents that would be routine in new york. >> let's put it this way, then. for 10 days after the banghazi attack, the obama administration denied it was a terrorist attack. >> bill: that's a different issue. >> after carney said that morning, okay, now everybody concedes it's a terrorist attack, the same afternoon obama went back to the, oh, it's really caused
hillary clinton actually gets up every day thinking about public policy. barack obama gets up every day thinking about barack obama. i mean, they're very different approaches to life. i think those of us who are his critics need to get over and understand, this who is president. this is a man who in the age of false celebritihood is sort of the perfect pre he's a false president. he's a guy who doesn't do the president's job. he's had 39% of the briefings on intelligence, the daily briefings....
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well, secretary clinton, we know it is called the clinton global initiative, but taxes for the entire globe. not a modest initiative, certainly. secretary of state hillary clinton my next guest says instead of comparing president obama with governor romney, it's more revealing to compare obama with obama contrasting his record versus his rhetoric starting with his pledge to create more transparency in government. joining a senior fellow with the hoover institution and author of this recent. [talking over each other] -- recent essay trickle-down theory and syndicated columnist. great to have you with this. let's start with -- i love the idea of obama being obama. as you put it, the idea that the transparency, he was going to open this government up. something quite different as happened. >> oh, absolutely. i think the classic is the obamacare. far from being presented to the public for several days and the internet as he said he would was rushed through congress so fast admitted they had not had time to read it. they pass it and let it go. it's one of many great contrast between what h
well, secretary clinton, we know it is called the clinton global initiative, but taxes for the entire globe. not a modest initiative, certainly. secretary of state hillary clinton my next guest says instead of comparing president obama with governor romney, it's more revealing to compare obama with obama contrasting his record versus his rhetoric starting with his pledge to create more transparency in government. joining a senior fellow with the hoover institution and author of this recent....
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is it governor romney or president clinton? find out minutes from now. [ engine revving ] ♪ [ male announcer ] every car we build must make adrenaline pump and pulses quicken. ♪ to help you not just to stay ale... but feel alive. the new c class is no exception. it's a mercedes-benz through and through. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. through mercedes-benz sleep train's inveis ending soon. sale save 10%, 20%, even 35% on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. get 2 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. even get free delivery! sleep train stacks the savings high to keep the prices low. but hurry, the inventory clearance sale is ending soon. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >> greta: president obama hit up the u.n. general assembly today, but you can count on one hand how many world leaders he met with today. that number he met with pri
is it governor romney or president clinton? find out minutes from now. [ engine revving ] ♪ [ male announcer ] every car we build must make adrenaline pump and pulses quicken. ♪ to help you not just to stay ale... but feel alive. the new c class is no exception. it's a mercedes-benz through and through. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. through mercedes-benz sleep train's inveis ending soon. sale save 10%, 20%, even 35%...
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is it governor romney or president clinton? find out minutes from now. [ engine revving ] ♪ [ male announcer ] every car we build must make adrenaline pump and pulses quicken. ♪ to help you not just to stay ale... but feel alive. the new c class is no exception. it's a mercedes-benz through and through. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. >> greta: president obama hit up the u.n. general assembly today, but you can count on one hand how many world leaders he met with today. that number he met with privately is zero. could snubbing world leaders hurt him with voters? we're back with our political panel. does it really make any difference do you think politically whether he meets with world leaders or not this week? >> well, it clearly has given how much attention this has gotten. i don't know if the obama campaign was anticipating that this would become such a big deal. i think that president obama thinks that he's sort of wins on foreign policy against ro
is it governor romney or president clinton? find out minutes from now. [ engine revving ] ♪ [ male announcer ] every car we build must make adrenaline pump and pulses quicken. ♪ to help you not just to stay ale... but feel alive. the new c class is no exception. it's a mercedes-benz through and through. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. >> greta: president obama hit up the u.n. general assembly today, but you can...
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governor mitt romney speaking of the clinton global initiative in new york was in the traditional form of american aid economic assistance are outdated in the global economy and what is really needed is trade. he has proposed a new trade organization. regardless of the specific proposal he had, what about this question of -- what exact forms of assistance are helpful? economic grants, loans, technical assistance? are we talking about free trade agreement, investment? what kind of engagement are most likely to help and descanting democracies bring about the kind of economic progress that is likely to buttress the political transition and allow them to move forward? allow them to move forward? >> we always recognize that trade is more important than aid. at the same time, there are things you can do before you can get a solid trading relationship. you have a lot undergirding the economic systems? do you have democratic courts so that there is recourse in the law to any problems that arise in trade? this has been a major problem for some of the emerging countries of europe. the russians s
governor mitt romney speaking of the clinton global initiative in new york was in the traditional form of american aid economic assistance are outdated in the global economy and what is really needed is trade. he has proposed a new trade organization. regardless of the specific proposal he had, what about this question of -- what exact forms of assistance are helpful? economic grants, loans, technical assistance? are we talking about free trade agreement, investment? what kind of engagement are...
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he said to mitt romney -- the line he said to hillary clinton, you are likable enough. neither one is apt to make a huge gaffe. >> who is undecided? this is all about. >> tiny amounts of people. tiny amounts of precincts in states. in some ways, it might not be mitt romney's last chance that it is his last best chance to break through and show people that he cares about them, he cares about their problems but that has been an issue for him. he has advantages on some of the other issues. so much of these debates is about the body language, the social clues. do they look pleasant? did they look like someone you want to have in your living room for the next four years? that will be important. >> in terms of the immediate impact of this debate, will we know after the media has pored over all the tricks and turns? >> we will know what the consensus of the media is. there are these polls, they will have some polls as early as tomorrow. we over analyze everything. i suspect in the next 48 hours, something will jell about what the outcome was. >> what about specific voter group
he said to mitt romney -- the line he said to hillary clinton, you are likable enough. neither one is apt to make a huge gaffe. >> who is undecided? this is all about. >> tiny amounts of people. tiny amounts of precincts in states. in some ways, it might not be mitt romney's last chance that it is his last best chance to break through and show people that he cares about them, he cares about their problems but that has been an issue for him. he has advantages on some of the other...
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ambassador in libya secretary of state hillary clinton or mark how could this happen in a country that we helped to liberate what are the u.s. foreign policy makers missing when it comes to their supports our interfering in countries with that complicated stance towards the west indeed i think it is causing a real sense of anxiety and a sense of schalke in the united states widely because this whole narrative that somehow the awakening was going away was reflecting and you know much of that was simply based on this rather press. narrative that was promoted by many mainstream western press did look they're using twitter and facebook therefore it must be western in its orientation well of course you find the salafist groups are seeing facebook and twitter not necessarily to promote western values but i think that gave it the sense that somehow this was flowing in the west direction and i think this is come as a big wakeup call to to the western states for the moment we see a tacit if you like alliance between the of radical elements in the united states in bringing down assad and bringin
ambassador in libya secretary of state hillary clinton or mark how could this happen in a country that we helped to liberate what are the u.s. foreign policy makers missing when it comes to their supports our interfering in countries with that complicated stance towards the west indeed i think it is causing a real sense of anxiety and a sense of schalke in the united states widely because this whole narrative that somehow the awakening was going away was reflecting and you know much of that was...
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and secretary clinton made the strongest statement today. between the attacks to al qaeda. you have been saying this since shortly after the attack. what is the significance of this? >> i think the white house is reluctant to admit that libya has been lost or potentially lost. no administration wants to admit that, and, frankly, we can't blame losing libya on this administration. it was in the works a long time. there wasn't much it could do. but we have an election coming up and no one wants to take blame for messing up the arab spring. not that they have, but this is the politics of washington. >> is it too early to say that libya has been lost? >> you look at the academic stuff of eastern libya. i heard today there are multiple assassinations where people are settling scores of all sorts of strikes. it's chaotic. going back to the fbi, you can't blame them, because there is nobody in control of a very large city in a very big part of libya. so they are, you know -- that's the problem, at the root of it. all the facts point to that. is that nobody is in control. >> a lot
and secretary clinton made the strongest statement today. between the attacks to al qaeda. you have been saying this since shortly after the attack. what is the significance of this? >> i think the white house is reluctant to admit that libya has been lost or potentially lost. no administration wants to admit that, and, frankly, we can't blame losing libya on this administration. it was in the works a long time. there wasn't much it could do. but we have an election coming up and no one...
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everyone has been heavily pressured by hillary clinton the state department to massively intervene in syria he's been heavily pressured inside his own cabinet to not intervene because twenty three percent of the turkish population is alawite most of them are the same as it's minority in syria and most turks regard.
everyone has been heavily pressured by hillary clinton the state department to massively intervene in syria he's been heavily pressured inside his own cabinet to not intervene because twenty three percent of the turkish population is alawite most of them are the same as it's minority in syria and most turks regard.
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secretary clinton said this about this investigation. let's watch. >> we are at the early stages of an fbi investigation. the team from the fbi reached libya earlier this week. >> so she said they reached libya earlier this week. no mention of being on the ground in benghazi. you are saying they havent been on the ground benghazi. is she splitting hairs here? >> in fairness to the secretary, it may be she wanted to be coy about where in libya they were for security concerns. that would be understandable. but the fact is it is not clear they have even been inside of libya for very long. they had difficulty and we understand some bureaucratic infighting between the fbi and justice department on the one hand and the state department on the other hand. it took longer to get in the country. they have now gotten there but are still unable to get permission to go to benghazi. >> bob you have been involved in a number of aftermath investigations. have you ever heard of anything like this. where whether it is bureaucratic infighting where they ar
secretary clinton said this about this investigation. let's watch. >> we are at the early stages of an fbi investigation. the team from the fbi reached libya earlier this week. >> so she said they reached libya earlier this week. no mention of being on the ground in benghazi. you are saying they havent been on the ground benghazi. is she splitting hairs here? >> in fairness to the secretary, it may be she wanted to be coy about where in libya they were for security concerns....
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i bet hillary clinton didn't know she'd be doing his job. she made the time to meet with netanyahu and sit down with him. all the president made time for is a 20-minute conversation? >> sean: and the white house releases a photo, there's the president all serious. what is that? a photo op, i actually called bibi netanyahu, and snubbed him and treated him like crap. >> by the way, just to point out, he did have his daily briefing. and ever since it was reported, the white house has been running and doing it every day, right? so we go through that motion. then we ever the nonschedule. hey, look, if you're not netanyahu, you can't read what this message is. we don't have time. we can't schedule. you've got an open -- you know what will happen, sean, the media's not going to do anything about this. they don't pursue anything. they are just so far in the tank for him. they are so far not following up real stories of the lies, the cover-ups, and national security, it's scary. >> sean: it's friday night, we got a friday night dump tonight. here's p
i bet hillary clinton didn't know she'd be doing his job. she made the time to meet with netanyahu and sit down with him. all the president made time for is a 20-minute conversation? >> sean: and the white house releases a photo, there's the president all serious. what is that? a photo op, i actually called bibi netanyahu, and snubbed him and treated him like crap. >> by the way, just to point out, he did have his daily briefing. and ever since it was reported, the white house has...
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beckons clinton, obama takes in "the view"." it says the campaign advisor acknowledge in the election year, along with what you're saying, campaigning trumped meetings with world leaders saying look, this is a quote, look, if he met with one leader, he'd have to meet with ten. anonymous white house aide. so what if he has to meet with ten? >> bob: i can tell you why. it takes time away from campaigns. >> eric: is that what you want? really? >> dana: i think it's a terrible decision. it's one they could have avoi avoided. they have no exde dexterity. of the events that happened last week, why couldn't you say actually, i'm going to meet with angela merkel who is dealing with a possible currency collapse. in trying to bail out the rest of the country in europe. it will effect us at home. i could meet with the chinese and press them on human rights. it could meet with the north african leaders to talk to them about the growing threat of al-qaeda there. then i could meet with pakistan, afghanistan, and iraqis and tell them better ge
beckons clinton, obama takes in "the view"." it says the campaign advisor acknowledge in the election year, along with what you're saying, campaigning trumped meetings with world leaders saying look, this is a quote, look, if he met with one leader, he'd have to meet with ten. anonymous white house aide. so what if he has to meet with ten? >> bob: i can tell you why. it takes time away from campaigns. >> eric: is that what you want? really? >> dana: i think it's...
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instead secretary of state hillary clinton had one-on-one with the u.n. special representative to syria and a number of other officials. margaret warner is at the united nations. i spoke to her just a short time ago. hello, margaret. so what message was president obama in his speech and secretary clinton in her meetings trying to send? warner: judy, i think the way to look at this is a tough love speech from the president and also privately from secretary clinton. and that is to the leaders of these post revolutionary countries that are now trying to make this transition -- and they have to stand up to violence and intolerance in their own societies and extremism -- and president obama said, you know, it's not that we endorse hateful speech. we thought the video was offensive but even when i am criticized with hateful speech, he said, i will fiercely defend the right of people to say it. he also gave them a very practical reason. he said, you know, you're not going to be able to deliver to people what you promise, what they elected you to do, which is job
instead secretary of state hillary clinton had one-on-one with the u.n. special representative to syria and a number of other officials. margaret warner is at the united nations. i spoke to her just a short time ago. hello, margaret. so what message was president obama in his speech and secretary clinton in her meetings trying to send? warner: judy, i think the way to look at this is a tough love speech from the president and also privately from secretary clinton. and that is to the leaders of...
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the believing they had with hillary clinton left them with many unanswered questions. catherine herridge is in washington this mourn. what are we learning about the letter. >> reporter: thank you and good morning. fox was first to obtain this letter. significtly it's signed by the heads of the intelligence, armed services, appropriations, skwrurb dish airy and foreign relation commit taoets who have oversight on these issues. they are disturbed by statement made by the members of the administration that would lead americans that this attack was a protest gone wrong . we stand ready to return to washington. right after the briefing thursday on capitol hill by the secretary of state and the director of national intelligence they indicated it was inadequate. >> they did give some information but said that something that they said could be talked about outside, so i guess i didn't learn anything. it's nice to see you all, but there i not really much to say. >> i think it was very important that secretary clinton and senator clapper and the other people there told the entir
the believing they had with hillary clinton left them with many unanswered questions. catherine herridge is in washington this mourn. what are we learning about the letter. >> reporter: thank you and good morning. fox was first to obtain this letter. significtly it's signed by the heads of the intelligence, armed services, appropriations, skwrurb dish airy and foreign relation commit taoets who have oversight on these issues. they are disturbed by statement made by the members of the...
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washington post silencing whistle blowers speak on our responsibility and legs and packages that pursue clinton and still. it's five am here in moscow and you're watching our tease at the weekly protests against spending cuts continues throughout europe as people read this syria as a bailout sponsored a stereotype mass demonstrations in madrid turned violent last week that's all to the problem and past its fits all sergi budget in a row police fired rubber bullets to control the end with demonstrators leaving more than sixty injured dozens more were detained arjun's jacob riis has been following developments. some saw an increase in the spraying her personal body advance your stairs to protest in the euro zone the first time passes their frustrations and anger only seems to be hardening for the last to bring a charge the crowd provides the trained politician i am not. the only people who feel they are being fed this dire warnings. but for north dakota promises bruised protesters and battered buildings are becoming the euro zone's currency from athens to madrid capitals this week have been brace
washington post silencing whistle blowers speak on our responsibility and legs and packages that pursue clinton and still. it's five am here in moscow and you're watching our tease at the weekly protests against spending cuts continues throughout europe as people read this syria as a bailout sponsored a stereotype mass demonstrations in madrid turned violent last week that's all to the problem and past its fits all sergi budget in a row police fired rubber bullets to control the end with...
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expectations for the first debate by saying, i am just okay debater the he did well against hillary clinton in the democratic primaries in 2008. he did well against john mccain. obviously he won the whole thing. four years ago, though, and he is dealing with that challenge and could be rusty and the challenge of the economy in some of the battleground states. he got 11,000 people at a rally in las vegas last night and tried to make the case that things are coming around. >> i want to promote a new economic patriotism. one that is rooted in the belief we grow the economy best when everyone has a shot. and the middle class is thriving. i won't pretend it will be easy to get there. it took us a bunch of years to get us in this mess. it will take us a few more to get us out. >>reporter: the place where the president is doing presentation is a microcosm of the state, lake las vegas, the boom and bust if you will, with celebrities with multimillion dollar homes but the resort area went bankrupt and some of the hotels went away and now they are coming back, housing surprising are starting to lift.
expectations for the first debate by saying, i am just okay debater the he did well against hillary clinton in the democratic primaries in 2008. he did well against john mccain. obviously he won the whole thing. four years ago, though, and he is dealing with that challenge and could be rusty and the challenge of the economy in some of the battleground states. he got 11,000 people at a rally in las vegas last night and tried to make the case that things are coming around. >> i want to...
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and it was like living under clinton. as long as it needs to last until people's daily. europe's ingolf to protest his frustration over disintegrating economies and biting cuts into violent clashes with police. syria and iran top the debate of this year's un general assembly with russia calling for peace and israel drawing prospects for war. also provides julian assange with a video link to the un he makes his first speech to world leaders that attacks the persecution of wiki leaks while holed up in the ecuadorian embassy in london. hello this is r.t. live from moscow this sunday evening it's kevin owen here with our roundup of the big stories of the past seven days and first protests against biting spending cuts continue throughout europe as people vent their anger over a bailout sponsored austerity must step instructions in madrid turn to violence earlier this week his police were forced to fire rubber bullets to calm the fears of the public the big dozens of arrests and injuries assays jacob great thing for development. for some time of grief in spain have occurred wi
and it was like living under clinton. as long as it needs to last until people's daily. europe's ingolf to protest his frustration over disintegrating economies and biting cuts into violent clashes with police. syria and iran top the debate of this year's un general assembly with russia calling for peace and israel drawing prospects for war. also provides julian assange with a video link to the un he makes his first speech to world leaders that attacks the persecution of wiki leaks while holed...